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== Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2023 ==
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Gandhi, Schiller and King: The Power of Truth-Force and Sublime Compassion
https://schillerinstitut.dk/si/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Gandhi-Schiller-King-english.pdf [[User:Mich.ras|Mich.ras]] ([[User talk:Mich.ras|talk]]) 10:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2024 ==
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[[User:V. Mishra'IND|V. Mishra'IND]] ([[User talk:V. Mishra'IND|talk]]) 14:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Mahatma Gandhi is not father of nation, Mahatma Gandhi Was Never Declared ‘Father Of Nation.
The home ministry says Article 18 (1) of the Constitution does not permit any titles except education and military ones.
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==Revert of ip, no explanation==
Hi {{ping|Capitals00}}. I was wondering why did you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mahatma_Gandhi&diff=prev&oldid=1215515717 revert] the ip's post? I don't see the need to revert and much less revert without an edit summary. Sincerely, --<span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:That message was nothing more than blatant trolling and I obviously reverted it per [[WP:DNFT]]. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 03:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::I see it more as a content dispute between you and the ip. What they pointed out can be found in criticism against Gandhi elsewhere, in the very easy google search I did. Please restore and use the consensus process. Thanks. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 19:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:::It is not a content dispute but blatant trolling. You really need find something productive instead of feeding the troll. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 01:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
===Info about criticism against Gandhi===
There has been criticism against Gandhi, including claims that he was a British agent,<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/katju-mahatma-gandhi-british-agent-press-council-blog-post-243573-2015-03-10 |title= Katju does it again, says Mahatma Gandhi was a British agent |last= |first= |date= 13 Mar 2015 |website= India Today |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> his practices of sleeping with naked women,<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/01/gandhi-celibacy-test-naked-women |title= How would Gandhi’s celibacy tests with naked women be seen today? |last= Jack |first= Ian |date= 1 Oct 2018 |website= The Guardian |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> bias and rivalry with Nehru.<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/gandhi-and-nehru-poles-apart-but-they-transformed-each-other-and-the-freedom-struggle |title= Gandhi & Nehru: poles apart but they transformed each other and the freedom struggle |last= Misra |first= Salil |date= 13 Nov 2019 |website= National Herald of India |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> The revert of the ip post was undue and failed to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 21:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:Your third source is not supportive of your claim. In fact it is simply the opposite.
:As for the rest, so what do you want us to do? Add this all into the article? There are those who claim Holocaust was a hoax, COVID is fake, vaccines cause deaths and more and they do get coverage but when they raise those issues here we simply revert them away.
:You are just wasting time over a troll IP and you need to stop it. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 01:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] I request that you follow the consensus policy and the dispute resolution policy. Anonymous ips also have the right according to the Wikipedia's Five Pillars to present legitimate points in the talk page. I do not appreciate at all that you are telling me that I need to stop simply because it is an ip and you were in the wrong reverting without a proper edit summary and calling it trolling when it was not trolling, failing to assume good faith.
::{{tq2|Wikipedia is free content that <strong>anyone</strong> can use, edit, and distribute.}} Thanks. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::"As for the rest, so what do you want us to do?" I simply presented the information backed by sources. It is up to a consensus whether to include it or not. You are pointing out to other things but even for those things there is a policy called [[WP:FRINGE]], which I don't know if it is the case with the information presented by the ip. Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:41, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Bapu doesnt means Father ==
Bapu is gujarati word usually used to address elderly wise men. Its being misinterpreted with hindi word baap. It gujarat anyone above 50 and mostly belonging to saurashtra region are addressed in respect as bapu, similarly in north india people address elderly as babuji.
I am sorry as i cannot produce citation for same, but being a gujarati i can explain the difference. [[User:Unvindia|Unvindia]] ([[User talk:Unvindia|talk]]) 00:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)' |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2023 ==
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Request to add to Scholarly Articles section:
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https://schillerinstitut.dk/si/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Gandhi-Schiller-King-english.pdf [[User:Mich.ras|Mich.ras]] ([[User talk:Mich.ras|talk]]) 10:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2024 ==
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[[User:V. Mishra'IND|V. Mishra'IND]] ([[User talk:V. Mishra'IND|talk]]) 14:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Mahatma Gandhi is not father of nation, Mahatma Gandhi Was Never Declared ‘Father Of Nation.
The home ministry says Article 18 (1) of the Constitution does not permit any titles except education and military ones.
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 14:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
==Revert of ip, no explanation==
Hi {{ping|Capitals00}}. I was wondering why did you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mahatma_Gandhi&diff=prev&oldid=1215515717 revert] the ip's post? I don't see the need to revert and much less revert without an edit summary. Sincerely, --<span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:That message was nothing more than blatant trolling and I obviously reverted it per [[WP:DNFT]]. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 03:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::I see it more as a content dispute between you and the ip. What they pointed out can be found in criticism against Gandhi elsewhere, in the very easy google search I did. Please restore and use the consensus process. Thanks. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 19:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:::It is not a content dispute but blatant trolling. You really need find something productive instead of feeding the troll. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 01:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
===Info about criticism against Gandhi===
There has been criticism against Gandhi, including claims that he was a British agent,<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/katju-mahatma-gandhi-british-agent-press-council-blog-post-243573-2015-03-10 |title= Katju does it again, says Mahatma Gandhi was a British agent |last= |first= |date= 13 Mar 2015 |website= India Today |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> his practices of sleeping with naked women,<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/01/gandhi-celibacy-test-naked-women |title= How would Gandhi’s celibacy tests with naked women be seen today? |last= Jack |first= Ian |date= 1 Oct 2018 |website= The Guardian |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> bias and rivalry with Nehru.<ref>{{Cite web|url= https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/gandhi-and-nehru-poles-apart-but-they-transformed-each-other-and-the-freedom-struggle |title= Gandhi & Nehru: poles apart but they transformed each other and the freedom struggle |last= Misra |first= Salil |date= 13 Nov 2019 |website= National Herald of India |publisher= |access-date= 27 Mar 2024 }}</ref> The revert of the ip post was undue and failed to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 21:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:Your third source is not supportive of your claim. In fact it is simply the opposite.
:As for the rest, so what do you want us to do? Add this all into the article? There are those who claim Holocaust was a hoax, COVID is fake, vaccines cause deaths and more and they do get coverage but when they raise those issues here we simply revert them away.
:You are just wasting time over a troll IP and you need to stop it. [[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] ([[User talk:Capitals00|talk]]) 01:51, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Capitals00|Capitals00]] I request that you follow the consensus policy and the dispute resolution policy. Anonymous ips also have the right according to the Wikipedia's Five Pillars to present legitimate points in the talk page. I do not appreciate at all that you are telling me that I need to stop simply because it is an ip and you were in the wrong reverting without a proper edit summary and calling it trolling when it was not trolling, failing to assume good faith.
::{{tq2|Wikipedia is free content that <strong>anyone</strong> can use, edit, and distribute.}} Thanks. <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
::"As for the rest, so what do you want us to do?" I simply presented the information backed by sources. It is up to a consensus whether to include it or not. You are pointing out to other things but even for those things there is a policy called [[WP:FRINGE]], which I don't know if it is the case with the information presented by the ip. Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">[[User:Thinker78|<span style="color:white">'''Thinker78'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Thinker78|(talk)]] 03:41, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Bapu doesnt means Father ==
Bapu is gujarati word usually used to address elderly wise men. Its being misinterpreted with hindi word baap. It gujarat anyone above 50 and mostly belonging to saurashtra region are addressed in respect as bapu, similarly in north india people address elderly as babuji.
I am sorry as i cannot produce citation for same, but being a gujarati i can explain the difference. [[User:Unvindia|Unvindia]] ([[User talk:Unvindia|talk]]) 00:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
== suck my dick ==
that means to suck my dick ~~~~' |