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Red_Salmon said: Togs didn't make any posts so that's different. His slot is now kinda doing stuff.wen294 said: Are we reading the same ISO? If you think it's not scummy then tell me this: Where do you see scumhunting? Where do you see him expressing his own opinion? Where do you see him adding anything to the discussion? Where do you seem him putting pressure on somebody? Where do you see any motivation/drive to solve this game? Where did you see him do something to drive the gamestate forward? This game has been going on for 72 hours now and he has yet to do anything even remotely usefull for town. Wait a sec, let me rephrase that: He has yet to even ATTEMPT doing something usefull for town. Because voting for somebody for the sole reason of getting them lynched without caring about the results is not what i consider usefull for town. I could ask the same questions about Togs or dono or ironace or pyro or any of the other inactives (or former inactives for that matter) I understand where you're coming from but looking at it again I think we can find better/more definite scum. PS. Backreading and replying before I go to bed As for dono, look up and you see her being active and trying to contribute. Pyro and ironace are both trying to contribute as well. Only abu is not even trying to do something for town while making sure to hit the minimum required post amount by making completly unrelevant and useless posts every now and then. Or at least i can't see much other reason to make the posts he's been making. |
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Red_Salmon said: Halfway through my read from Page 3 onwards I had started suspecting Lucian as scum with how he had managed to get everyone's eyes off of him and onto LW just as a train had started to form on him. That too when the reason on voting on LW was weak. Plus being wary of people who have been town reading him calling it as white-knighting by scum is suspicious too. He seems overly aware of it. Rather uncomfortable by it. Before you go to bed, @Red_Salmon Are you still holding on to this? |
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LucianRoy said: Honestly the way you're asking him stuff feels more like you're scumreading him still.aa-dono said: This is quite right. Lucy's initial suspicion on Red was due to him calling out the Wisp-read. Lucian actually said that he did not think the read was weak. And the way he said it gave off confidence. But if he was confident with his Wisp-read at the point, it was scummy that he pursued Red at EoD1 even though staying at Wisp might have better chances at securing a lynch. If you've read the thread, where do you think my read on Wisp lies now? It doesn't sound like the kind of tone you give to someone you'd townread. It feels like you doubt he actually have a good read and you're waiting on it. From this, I have a townlean on you. Testing reads is not something scum need to do. But I have reservations since you retracted your vote from him last phase and you don't seem to mention a scumread on him this phase. So, how did you decide Red was a better lynch than Wisp? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I see your vote and i understand it, but I am confused about what you want me and others to make sense of lol. If there is something you've noticed please share it with the rest of us. It's about the lucian and LW situation which I wont say more about for now. Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: But seriously....dont play the idiot card on me xD edit: you can play it once but not twice! Wheres the first time cause i am curious That time where he said he was wrong with his wording, which also happened more than often lol This question just sounds like self-affirmation. Shinichi-Kun said: Red_Salmon said: Just wanted to let everyone know that the train on me has 7 votes right now, so the next one will certainly kill me, so think well before you vote (that's assuming the votes do not reset after EoD)(If the votes do reset then it's 4) I'm currently still backreading. oh i sohuld have read this first lol, why would votes carry over Vote:red Had me worried for no reason smh >_> Do you want to see Salmon get lynched or what? |
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The_Pyromaani said: @Gwendolly so in the end you think there is something about suzune's case but think there is no possibility of suzie finger pointing on Shinichi is no possibility for her being dead? Yup. But I'd rather think of it as a filler-kill too. edit: well not rather but I'm assuming it |
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| What does this mean? Gwendolly said: Ha! @Shinichi-Kun Why were you worried?Shinichi-Kun said: oh i sohuld have read this first lol, why would votes carry over Vote:red Had me worried for no reason smh >_> Do you want to see Salmon get lynched or what? |
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aa-dono said: Honestly the way you're asking him stuff feels more like you're scumreading him still. It doesn't sound like the kind of tone you give to someone you'd townread. It feels like you doubt he actually have a good read and you're waiting on it. From this, I have a townlean on you. Testing reads is not something scum need to do. But I have reservations since you retracted your vote from him last phase and you don't seem to mention a scumread on him this phase. So, how did you decide Red was a better lynch than Wisp? I began to townread wisp. I take it you scumread wisp currently? |
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| Satellite up-link connected Sending... Broadcasting Vote Count 2.2 LucianRoy (1): Albertinodias AlberintoDias (1): Zymf, SuzakuTsubasa Red_Salmon (3): Abu, ironace, Shinichi-Kun LastWhisper31 (1): Gwendolly AbuHumaid (1): Wen294 ironace (1): LucianRoy Not voting (5): aa-dono, Red_Salmon, Sleipnirr, LastWhisper31, The_PyroMaani Time until end of D2 Please alert me with any inaccuracies in the vote count. @aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @SuzakuTsubasa @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf |
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Grapefruit21 said: Satellite up-link connected Sending... Broadcasting Vote Count 2.2 LucianRoy (1): Albertinodias AlberintoDias (1): Zymf, SuzakuTsubasa Red_Salmon (4): Abu, LucianRoy, ironace, Shinichi-Kun LastWhisper31 (1): Gwendolly AbuHumaid (1): Wen294 Not voting (5): aa-dono, Red_Salmon, Sleipnirr, LastWhisper31, The_PyroMaani Time until end of D2 Please alert me with any inaccuracies in the vote count. @aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @SuzakuTsubasa @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf I voted ironace in my morning catch-up post, I don't blame you for missing the vote, it was too incorporated into the text. |
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LucianRoy said: Not sure. I haven't read his wall, so I'm don't know his newer thought process. But his initial posts were mostly fences, defending others, and echoing reads. I also think he overreacts to posts. And I did have a scumlean on him then.aa-dono said: Honestly the way you're asking him stuff feels more like you're scumreading him still. It doesn't sound like the kind of tone you give to someone you'd townread. It feels like you doubt he actually have a good read and you're waiting on it. From this, I have a townlean on you. Testing reads is not something scum need to do. But I have reservations since you retracted your vote from him last phase and you don't seem to mention a scumread on him this phase. So, how did you decide Red was a better lynch than Wisp? I began to townread wisp. I take it you scumread wisp currently? Not all his posts were bad though. And the defending part, Shin does that so much as either alignment. He's more lively(?) when he's town. I mean he have this need and enthusiasm to solve game which is absent from him as scum (I was his scumbuddy in last game). But he was caught because of this, and everyone in the game kept pointing this out to him so I think he would've change this by now. Basically, judging from how he post and comparing it to his previous games, I could say he's town. But since I think he's rather smart and a fast learner... also that he's listed 4 people as scumreads - Red (I don't think he's scum), Abu (feels like a push on inactivity more than opinion), wen (I don't agree) and Ironace (the only one I'm quite ok with..). Ei, he's not exactly neutral but I'm not comfortable enough to put him as town. Gut. |
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LucianRoy said: Grapefruit21 said: Satellite up-link connected Sending... Broadcasting Vote Count 2.2 LucianRoy (1): Albertinodias AlberintoDias (1): Zymf, SuzakuTsubasa Red_Salmon (4): Abu, LucianRoy, ironace, Shinichi-Kun LastWhisper31 (1): Gwendolly AbuHumaid (1): Wen294 Not voting (5): aa-dono, Red_Salmon, Sleipnirr, LastWhisper31, The_PyroMaani Time until end of D2 Please alert me with any inaccuracies in the vote count. @aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @SuzakuTsubasa @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf I voted ironace in my morning catch-up post, I don't blame you for missing the vote, it was too incorporated into the text. I thought I'd remembered seeing that... Fixed. |
| The whole of page 8 is a mess. I feel like lucian was nit-picking salmons words in sort of a desperation for a lynch. I really dont see anything strange on salmon right now, I do get where y'all coming from but like I said this is really nit-picking and it may have been legitimate for a first lynch. Interesting that Shinichi and ironace indeed had no doubts on that weak accusation and just simply agreeing with lucian. Do you guys believe you'll get more answers seeing salmon flip than lucian or LW? Albertinos vote looked like a vote of desperation too, so for now he's clear for me too. Pyro just seemed to be straight sheeping lol without even knowing his real reason for voting (#394) #539 @ironace "Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game." Imagine the inactives are indeed scum; the game would be awfully slow and easy to control by them. Should actually avoid that and poke everyone here or they should just die already! Also did you just admit that you'll be inactive in the future too? And I dont see your reasons for voting salmon, if you think Suzune was onto something or even lucian. It seems you are working yourself around them but not getting to the actual problem. aa-dono: Seems to mention stuff that has already been mentioned, but she seems to be analyzing individually and not following others by bringing fresh wind into this case and looking at it from another view. I like what she has to say so far. So neutral. wen: Seems to be staying and pushing on the salmon case #546. #553 yet you think its wasteful going back to him. Has interesting stuff to say but seems more NAI than actual commitment. Haven't read everything what you had to say, so Imma see later. kay I'm stopping on page 12...taking a break xD so far my list and oppinion: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today edit: NAI |
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Gwendolly said: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today So there are two problems I have with your reads list. 1.) You have no townreads? 2.) You pre-associate my alignment off of Lastwhispers flip?? "neutral: lucian (based on LWs flip)" So what you're doing here is actually a logical gap. By assuming Last will flip scum----> information you shouldn't possess as town---> you're saying our interactions are SvS. You don't scumread me, thus we aren't independent scumreads of yours. Iin reality, in the event Last doesn't flip scum, what does that make our interactions? |
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| Ive reed everything (but only superficial, sorry) I'm on the phone without autocorrect and not much time, many grammar wrrors, sorry So, i did nota want to vote togs because it would be a Less replacement, i said that to ensure that, even if togs died, his replacement would be of use, i did nota want to vote him because of any replacements... Togs in my perspective was the best option because while he only had 1 fix vote, voting Him, salmon would enter the vote as well ( i assume) and with that, se would havê the time i States to get 1 more vote, and not 3, (2 later on because Chunichi went offline) só, if yhey wanted a lynch, togs was the best option... Thats all, and thats also why i though/think that Luci was scumy, because he controles the lynch, and did nota to for the best odds of linchyng... Tomorrow morning ill come back for a quick stop... |
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LucianRoy said: Gwendolly said: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today So there are two problems I have with your reads list. 1.) You have no townreads? 2.) You pre-associate my alignment off of Lastwhispers flip?? "neutral: lucian (based on LWs flip)" So what you're doing here is actually a logical gap. By assuming Last will flip scum----> information you shouldn't possess as town---> you're saying our interactions are SvS. You don't scumread me, thus we aren't independent scumreads of yours. Iin reality, in the event Last doesn't flip scum, what does that make our interactions? 1.) Yup, I dont have townreads, I have I-get-back-to-you-later-reads 2.) I'm saying it would be interesting if LW flips scum, not just for you but for others too. |
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lastwhisper31 said: @Gwendolly, contrary to what you may believe, I'm not stupid, and I can assure you that, that post is 100% genuine thoughts from my brain, and I did not have a ghost writer, Jesus ur claims... Edit: Making mistakes does mean a lack of intelligence, it's mean being human Someone's offended edit: I will look into it later |
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LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. So now you're just basically excluding the others. It will be hard to get a collective vote, with so many different oppinions. Is there a candidate where we all think the same about? Let's say there are 4 scum in this game; it would mean they'd have to indirectly convince 4 others to stay on a certain person. I think we should focus on that too in the big picture. But who do you wanna definitely see go? Did you have a list? |
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Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. So now you're just basically excluding the others. It will be hard to get a collective vote, with so many different oppinions. Is there a candidate where we all think the same about? Let's say there are 4 scum in this game; it would mean they'd have to indirectly convince 4 others to stay on a certain person. I think we should focus on that too in the big picture. But who do you wanna definitely see go? Did you have a list? Allthough I believe 4 are too much. I'd say 3. Someone else mentioned 4 and it did sound certain. I believe it was salmon |
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Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. So now you're just basically excluding the others. They're perfectly capable of voting with us if they're town, but they haven't really done anything to show that. Process of Elimination. It will be hard to get a collective vote, with so many different oppinions. Is there a candidate where we all think the same about? Red Salmon had a lot of the people who aren't on the list I mentioned on their train the other day, and today. That leaves iron or Abu imo. Let's say there are 4 scum in this game; Very unlikely. Unless the town is stacked. it would mean they'd have to indirectly convince 4 others to stay on a certain person. I think we should focus on that too in the big picture. But who do you wanna definitely see go? Did you have a list? Today it feels like a toss-up between Ironace and Abu. Abu for PoE bullshittery, and Iron for being genuinely scummy. |
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Zymf said: #539 @ironace That is pretty simple reasoning and it's a very typical conclusion to reach. But especially considering your level of experience, it seems very genuine and town-induced, which gives me a town read on you. #546 @wen294 Remember that Red_Salmon is a new player and so, isn't a bit of insecurity very natural? Shinichi-Kun said: Have you ever seen Lucian "jump out of his roots"? And did he happen to be scum at that time?Lucian is a pretty open book mafia player, so allow of the stuff he does is pretty NAI. It's only when he jumps out of his roots that something seems off, which I havent really noticed yet. If not, then I don't think we can sort Lucian by that meta. Gwendolly said: yo can we lynch lastwhisper after all? I just have this feeling.... Gwendolly said: When you make statements like these, please explain properly.I want to make sense of something...sooo.. What feeling and what "something"? I have seen it, i cant remember the game, but yes Ik for a fact he slips up if hes scum. I havent noticed anything of the sorts though. |
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lastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: of course u don't because u were the one who thought of that dumb idealastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. |
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lastwhisper31 said: Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: you were the one that kept defending me in that kiznaiver game, I never asked for your help lol, don't give me thatlastwhisper31 said: Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. |
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Zymf said: Sleipnirr said: +1 Good job.Wait why did you mention Salmon as 'sacrifice' ? That wording would mean that in the subcouncios level you think salmon is town but you are voting him knowing he will turn town. Its almost like you are white knighting. Was that a possible scum slip anyone? Grapefruit21 said: Hmm.. It seems like Red_Salmon is likely the only player we can hope to actually lynch with this lynch lock system?Vote Count 2.1 LucianRoy (1): Albertinodias AlberintoDias (1): Zymf Red_Salmon (4): Abu, LucianRoy, ironace, Shinichi-Kun LastWhisper31 (1): Gwendolly Not voting (7): aa-dono, SuzakuTsubasa, Red_Salmon, Sleipnirr, LastWhisper31, The_PyroMaani, AbuHumaid Though I am probably currently the biggest opposition to this train, I still prefer a Red_Salmon lynch over No Lynch. As previously stated, I intend to go back and re-evaluate Red_Salmon, but I need to take a break first after all this backreading... @Red_Salmon I think you should claim. lastwhisper31 said: Looooooooooooooool XD (I was so damn proud of my own ingenuity in that claim)Natural warryness, lol, ya same goes for you, Guardian Angel my ass. @LucianRoy There is a clear difference between how we scum hunt. You search for inconsistencies and flip-floppyness, therefore you suspect Red_Salmon and ironace. I instead look at their general approach, their tone and try to guess their underlying intentions, which is why I sorta trust them. (Have you noticed how often I use the word "genuine", because I have? x.x) #617: I will probably also expand on my read on you at the same time as I expand my read on Red_Salmon... #625: Yes. Albertino does stike me as new, but in a more scummy way. Problem is only one of you is right about your read, seeing as how they cant be both alignments. That's the problem the rest of us have, and if either one flips scum I will be inclined to look at you. |
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Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: 543 specifically. @Gwendolly, take on this post by last? --- I agree with this pool, all except Wen. --- @Gwendolly, what are your thoughts on this post? I'm having a dejavu right now (with Phaze in the Danganronpa game was it?). I think he might have gotten help to write this. Perhaps from you? Because why are you asking me this? Because I voted for him? (I just flipped thru btw I'll be getting into details later) Hmm why are you bringing up the actions of a game that Last wasnt part of to get a read on his alignment? Also care to explain why you think this isnt from my brother, this kind of reply seems similar to his town game in Psycho pass. You should go give that game a read if u werent in it. |
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wen294 said: As you said, lynching somebody just for information is not the best way to go about things. Especially since the more townies we lose the lower our chances are of actually getting a lynch. Even if we have intel, if we can't succeed a lynch then it's worthless. (unless we have vig) Hmm thats pretty much what day 1 lynches are lol. Seeing as how the chance of hitting a town is pretty damn high. If salmon gets lynched it would clear up alot of shit. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm thats pretty much what day 1 lynches are lol. Seeing as how the chance of hitting a town is pretty damn high. If salmon gets lynched it would clear up alot of shit. And what exactly would it 'clear up'? |
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Gwendolly said: ironace said: Also, forgot to ask this question to all you guys who have been mafia in previous games.. who is the ideal target to lynch? How does mafia decide to do this? Why? Thinking of your next NK? Idk if its just me or if everyone else notices this, but holy crap do you 360 any statement that you think you can find scum tell in lmfao. |
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Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm even if that was a hosts mistake if I am held accountable for my forgetfulness even you should be. On day 1 its hard to form a powerful case, if this was a normal setup you would have been lynched. Also it depends on the flip flop, if you read someone as town but then scum read them in the next post people are gonna start asking questions. Sure its possible they're scum but 2 of them are known to lurk and the other said she might not be able to make the post count. Who are you talking about? Can you pls mention names? (your answer to salmon) Abu | Togs Aa-dono Sure if you read the post in more detail you would have known that |
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Red_Salmon said: wen294 said: Are we reading the same ISO? If you think it's not scummy then tell me this: Where do you see scumhunting? Where do you see him expressing his own opinion? Where do you see him adding anything to the discussion? Where do you seem him putting pressure on somebody? Where do you see any motivation/drive to solve this game? Where did you see him do something to drive the gamestate forward? This game has been going on for 72 hours now and he has yet to do anything even remotely usefull for town. Wait a sec, let me rephrase that: He has yet to even ATTEMPT doing something usefull for town. Because voting for somebody for the sole reason of getting them lynched without caring about the results is not what i consider usefull for town. I could ask the same questions about Togs or dono or ironace or pyro or any of the other inactives (or former inactives for that matter) I understand where you're coming from but looking at it again I think we can find better/more definite scum. PS. Backreading and replying before I go to bed All you had to do is answer the questions lmfao, and instead you jump around them. Unless you answer them in a post on page 14 |
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aa-dono said: Yay~ I can safely say I've read everything except Wisp's long wall. I'll come back to that later. It hurts my eye just to look at it right now ^^" Why his wall specifically? What about lucians giant post on page 13 which is longer i belieeve? |
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Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: I see your vote and i understand it, but I am confused about what you want me and others to make sense of lol. If there is something you've noticed please share it with the rest of us. It's about the lucian and LW situation which I wont say more about for now. That time where he said he was wrong with his wording, which also happened more than often lol This question just sounds like self-affirmation. Shinichi-Kun said: oh i sohuld have read this first lol, why would votes carry over Vote:red Had me worried for no reason smh >_> Do you want to see Salmon get lynched or what? I do but Im not gonna throw away 24 hours lol, I already expressed I want him lynched but doesnt mean I wanna see a lock this early. Anyone who willing to throw away half of a day phase is scum, no town would even throw away precious time. Ok fair enough I will ask the question again at a lter time. I think you forget this is only wisp 3 forum mafia game, not saying to overlook his posts, I just know hes confused at alot of stuff involving mafia in general. |
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already answered just read 1 my previous post. |
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aa-dono said: Not sure. I haven't read his wall, so I'm don't know his newer thought process. But his initial posts were mostly fences, defending others, and echoing reads. I also think he overreacts to posts. And I did have a scumlean on him then. Not all his posts were bad though. And the defending part, Shin does that so much as either alignment. He's more lively(?) when he's town. I mean he have this need and enthusiasm to solve game which is absent from him as scum (I was his scumbuddy in last game). But he was caught because of this, and everyone in the game kept pointing this out to him so I think he would've change this by now. Basically, judging from how he post and comparing it to his previous games, I could say he's town. But since I think he's rather smart and a fast learner... also that he's listed 4 people as scumreads - Red (I don't think he's scum), Abu (feels like a push on inactivity more than opinion), wen (I don't agree) and Ironace (the only one I'm quite ok with..). Ei, he's not exactly neutral but I'm not comfortable enough to put him as town. Gut. Your wrong about the game solving part, that was present in zymf game because everyone slowly realized something was off about the game. I don't think that game or how people played that game should be compared to an actual mafia game. |
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LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. Im down for that, but why a CT on ace? |
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